Emily is back in this episode! She's been on enough episodes now for us to stop making a big deal about it, but she doesn't fall asleep so that's nice. We talk TDS Skill systems and the many revisions they've undergone, Lilith (an important foil to Zach's perception of Mr. B), quest-crafting, living in Seattle, and how Zach murders animals and then tries to get people to pay him for their bodies.