We brought Laje in to talk traffic and toll roads, about rap we like/dislike, and fantasize about selling out. Other topics include the unmade River Mortis mockumentary, white savior movies, Jack's dank meatloaf, Tim Hecker, Vice/fake headlines, thinking too much from w**d, and Ian's Born to Die World is a Fuck t-shirt. Thanks to 27CorazonesBeats